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Post by zfoster on Dec 23, 2009 9:30:59 GMT -5
Without doubt the area of the game under the most scrutiny is the great battles between the offensive and defensive lines. Often times the officials find themselves under fire for their interpretation of what holding is regarding the offensive linemen holding the defensive linemen. So I ask you all to describe holding by an offensive linemen. The second part of this will be to clarify the technical applications of penalties regarding holding as well as better descriptions of what Certified MCFFU officials will be looking for during other game scenarios.
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Post by dc on Jan 4, 2010 11:15:40 GMT -5
As long as you keep your hands inside, over the last 10 years, holding has been allowed as long as the OL guy has won the hands inside battle. I'm talking about football in general and not just flag football, I think that anytime the hands get outside the frame, it's a hold.
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Post by zfoster on Jan 8, 2010 1:21:57 GMT -5
DC pleased you chimed in. Your input as well as others is important regarding our understanding of the rules and the application of the rules we understand. I am pasting a response from the real deal website I posted a few days ago. Looking forward to the discussion.
Interesting response and fairly accurate with the exception of one key point.
At no time regardless of the positioning of the blockers hands are you allowed to clinch, grab, hold etc. This is the biggest misunderstanding of holding I have seen throughout football. Granted it is understood throughout the entire football world that if an offensive linemen gets inside position as well as moves his feet typically officials will consider this a good block regardless of what is going on with the blockers hands. Understood and for most football heads this is accepted but it is not a rule. I want to be clear by rule whenever you "clinch uniform, grab, hold, tug, hook, and pull a defender it is holding. Inside position does not matter. Now as far as the MCFFU is concerned we are going to play football all the way around. I don't want to be a part of your game and you don't want me to be a part of your game. In those trenches be prepared to play on both sides and understand that this is contact football.
The MCFFU officials will specifically look for any player illegally gaining an advantage against another that may be described with single words such as "pull, hook, grab" illustrated in the current rulebook.
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Post by nuck650 on Jan 19, 2010 16:06:07 GMT -5
get this. in vegas this pass weekend. holding was a spot foul. GO FIGURE! instead of replay 1st down and 10 yards. it was holding inthe backfield( the spot) then add 10 more yards on that. isnt it 10 yards fromt he line of scrimmage replay the down.?
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Post by hiik on Jan 19, 2010 16:10:54 GMT -5
Ummm...do they not watch games on TV??? That is like the easiest of all penalties to mark off!!!
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Post by Assasins Coach on Jan 28, 2010 14:35:23 GMT -5
if i have two fist fulls of jersey at the d linemans sternum its not holding...now when that player pulls away and i still have his jersey if he creates enough separation then it becomes holding but if ur inside the nips and in front of the guy no one can see ur hands so there for it is impossible to call holding as much as d lineman complain
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Post by tim boshane on Jul 31, 2011 10:49:24 GMT -5
.. I play semi pro football ..I'm just curious if a ol man has a D-lineman on the ground ..what is the ruling on holding does he have to let him up or can he stay on top of him..
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